It's inevitable that it's going to happen--the third Batman movie. And since I don't know any more about contracts, negotiations, or what's going on in Nolan's head than anyone else, I'm going to tell you what I feel would make the next Batman movie a comic fan's dream.
First of all, Nolan needs to direct the entire franchise and never let anybody else take it over and run it into the ground. I remember when Batman '89 came out. It was suddenly fashionable to wear Batman t-shirts, and comic book geeks like me actually got to be cool for a change! Then they made another movie. Then another. And then another. Batman became uncool, again. In fact, it was probably less cool than it was before Tim Burton.
Christopher Nolan might not want to direct Batman for the rest of his life. But, Chris, we need you. You're the only one who gets the comic book world exactly right. Comic book artists use a very realistic drawing style that mimics the real world. Now movies already look more like the real world than drawings ever could. But for some reason, when directors try to adapt a comic, they often stylize it so that it looks less 'real' and more 'like a comic'. Nolan makes it real, and makes you believe that characters like Batman and the Joker could really exist. Nolan gets it right.
Secondly, bring back the Joker. I'm not of the opinion that it would be disrespectful to recast him after Heath Ledger's passing. Let me start by explaining why his Joker is so amazing to me. When I used to read the comics, watch the cartoons, etc., I could imagine Gotham City--like actually walking through it--and everyone there as if it were part of the real world. But not the Joker. Not only that, I couldn't imagine Jack Nicholson or Cesar Romero in the Gotham that I knew. They just didn't represent the Joker of the comic. When I saw The Dark Knight, I finally got to see the Joker. Heath Ledger was able to make him real for me. I think it would be a great tribute to him to keep his reimagining of the Joker alive. As a character, the Joker belongs in Batman's world, and he should stay there for the next movie.
Of course, then there is the matter of who is going to play the Joker, now that Heath is not around to reprise the role. My suggestion is this guy. Now I know you don't know his name. And I believe at this point, not even his biggest fans know his name. But since people think it's impossible to recast the Joker, and they're taking a chance anyway, their best bet would be to take a chance on an unknown actor. He's got the right look, he's talented, and he's been rehearsing for the role since Dark Knight came out, so can we please give it to him already?
Having said that, I think the Joker should be a minor villain in the next movie, perhaps like the Scarecrow was in The Dark Knight. He should be in Arkham, which would lead to the introduction of Harley Quinn. That's who I really want to see in the next Batman movie, because she would fit in perfectly with the Gotham that Nolan has created.
Which brings me to my next point: stick to the lesser-known villains. For those of you not all that familiar with the Batman franchise, it's obvious who the "lesser known villains" are--the ones you haven't heard of. For all you geeky-ass fan boys and fan girls, "lesser-known villains" usually refers to the villains that originated in the comics, but were not featured on the '60s TV show. If you're a big Batman fan, of course you think, "Shit, everybody knows who Clayface is!" But they don't. They know who the Penguin is, though, and it's probably not because of the animated series. So, yeah. That means: no Penguin, no Catwoman, no Riddler. The Joker was the exception. The Joker is in nearly every incarnation of Batman, because, as we all know, one can't exist without the other. With the lesser-known villains, fans can see characters brought to life that they've always wanted to see, but never had the opportunity. Everyone else will be able to view them with fresh eyes, and without any preconceived notions of what they believe the characters are supposed to be.
And on the subject of the Riddler, can I just say that the Riddler has a real name, and it's not Coleman Reese? I'd like to nip that IMDB rumor in the bud right now. Apparently, some are speculating that Coleman Reese, the pudgy accountant who nearly "outed" Bruce Wayne, is going to become the Riddler in the next movie. Apparently, he has a knack for "solving puzzles," because he figured out who Batman was. Um, okay. He found the the designs for the Batmobile in with some old files at Wayne Enterprises. It didn't really take too much deductive power to solve that one. And what's more, the Riddler should not know who Batman is. At least not right away. It's possible that this is what Nolan had intended, just as it's possible that he had intented for Natasha, the Russian ballerina, to become Catwoman. She has about as much in common with Catwoman as Reese has with the Riddler. But that would be really dumb.
Catwoman is one of my favorite characters. The problem is, I like her so much that I would never be satisfied with any actress they chose to play her, or any version of her they would choose to portray. Angelina Jolie or Megan Fox? Puh-lease! The only way I'd like to see Selina Kyle in the next Batman movie would be if she was Hooker Selina, like in Frank Miller's Batman: Year One. She's tough, angry, jaded, damaged and so far outside of most people's vision of Catwoman, that I know I will never see her in a movie. So I would rather not see Catwoman at all.
Last, but not least, the next movie needs to be Rated R. All the classics, The Killing Joke, Arkham Asylum: A Serious House On A Serious Earth, and the new Joker graphic novel. Those are all hard R fare. I get it that little kids like Batman, but what about me? I'm an adult, and I like Batman, too. This time, I'd like to see a movie for people like me.
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I completely respect your opinion, but I'm not of the mind that only Christopher Nolan can make a decent Batman movie. It's certainly true that changing directors will mean some difference in style and themes. What's not true is the notion that Nolan is the only director in the world with an intimate understanding of comics or the skill to bring them to the screen. Keeping the same director over a span of several films can be just as risky as changing helmers every couple of movies, because sooner or later that director either loses their enthusiasm or runs out of new things to say. The trick to maintaining the series' quality is not handcuffing Chris Nolan to the Batmobile; the trick is making sure that whatever director replaces him (along with the screenwriter, production designer, composer, and actors) has the skill, vision, and passion for the material to deliver a great movie. There are plenty of qualified candidates out there, and a departure by Nolan wouldn't necessarily mean the studio would ignore all of those candidates in favor of a Brett Ratner/McG-type.
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ReplyDeleteJames Franco is the JOKER, just put on the white face and run like hell.
You're probably right, djkrouskop, but I do hope Nolan WANTS to continue directing the series. I am sure there are qualified directors out there, but right now, he is the only one I trust. There are a lot of great directors, but it would take a lot for me to trust them not to get all stylized on a comic book movie. Not enough directors treat the medium of the comic books with the respect it deserves.
ReplyDeleteteenagefrank, good call! I don't know why I never thought of that before! I just saw MILK, and James Franco definitely has the acting chops to pull that off. I could totally see it!
I would love to see the Crime Doctor, "Matches Malone" and Harold appear in the films at some point.
ReplyDeleteAs for who could take over the directorial reigns after Nolan... You have seen The Departed haven't you? Just sayin'.
I disagree on the fact that it should be rated R. There is a rumor about an R rated Batman film coming out and i here it is very bloody and Harley for the first time.
ReplyDeletesorry. Harley part cut out. leave it at bloody.
ReplyDeleteI also believe that the rated- R is a little too far. I am a sixteen year old, and my parents, quite frankly, are movie prudes. Even if it was Batman, which I am obsessed with me, if it was rated R they wouldnt let me see it. Sure, I could sneak into it easy enough, but they would know if I saw it, because Im sure I wouldnt be able to shut up. Lets keep it pg-13, because it is the best for Batman fans of almost all ages.
ReplyDeleteAmen to that.
ReplyDeleteTheJokerBlogs guy for the Joker role! Woohoo!
One "Lesser-Known" Character I would want to see is Anarky. He would be a perfect Nolan-verse Character. I would also like to see Hush...But I'm not sure how that would play out.
ReplyDeleteI love this article. You bring a lot to light, you really do.
ReplyDeleteHOWEVAHHH, [mark hamill voice] I do believe that the animated series did a fantastic job of bringing the comics to life.
Okay, as far as the joker goes, YES to thejokerblogs! I am 100 percent on board with finding a new actor and thejokerblogs guy and http://www.youtube.com/anthonyingruber are the only two i have seen who can honestly bring the joker to life. i love the creativity of thejokerblogs' character and anthony can portray any joker ever made which is impressive.
furthermore i think harley quinn is a necessary installment but, like you with catwoman, i don't feel like anyone is worthy of playing the role so it makes me biased. i don't know if i'd like to see a live-action harley. it wouldn't fit her the way an animated character does. i haven't seen an actress come out in recent years who can bring her to life in that way [except me, and i doubt i'll be discovered before the release of the next nolan film]
let's just put thejokerblogs in theaters! hahah<3
Hey Rachel,
ReplyDeleteWelcome to Monster Island News, I look forward to reading more of your posts in the future.
I agree with you that Nolan should keep focusing on Batman's lesser known villians. Some interesting characters, such as Clayface and the Ventriloquist, are always overlooked simply because they haven't become iconic villians like the Joker.
However, I respectfully disagree with you that the next Batman film, or any Batman film, should have to be rated "R" in order to appeal to "people like [us]". I'm well into adulthood and my comic book fandom, and my fandom for Batman especially, has accompanied me througout my life. And some of the worst interpretations of the character I've seen have been in stories targeted toward "mature" readers. That being said I would ask you this question:
How would an "R" rated Batman film enhance the characters or the world they inhabit in any significant way? I haven't read A Serious House On A Serious Earth, so I can't comment on it, but The Killing Joke and Arkham Asylum are both stories that could be told just as effectively within the boundries of a PG-13 film.
Not being one who dismissed the Daredevil movie simply out of some apparently universal hatred for Ben Affleck I discovered that it was an underrated film that deserves recognition among Marvel's better cinematic efforts. And the director's cut not only corrected a few of the theatrical release's shortcomings, but it also more satisfyingly fleshed out the story.
But you know what ultimately earned it the "hard R fare" rating:
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Lastly, if you were to ask me what I want most from the next Batman movie, I would say without hesitation that I want Batman to finally look like Batman! From Tim Burton's film to Christopher Nolan's, not once have I ever felt like I was really looking at the Batman. However the idea of his wearing protective body armor is interpreted, just once I'd like to see it done in a way that accurately reflects the look of his real, iconic black and gray costume.
There's a company called Bat In The Sun Productions that has made a number of excellent, short Batman films that can be seen on YouTube. And, IMO, their interpretation of Batman and his world is better than any big budget Hollywood version has been to date.
How is having it Rated R gonna make it any better? Is it the nudit? The Blood? The cursing? A film these days can be violent, and still get a PG-13 rating. Not to mention that PG-13 films make more money than films that are Rated R. And that is what Hollywood is all about....the money.
ReplyDeleteHey Rachel! Nice article...
ReplyDeleteOh, I would love to see the joker blog's guy in the next Batman movie, he's just... perfect. But it kind of worries me that he resembles a little too much Heath Ledger :/
But he would be awesome there.
And on the Riddler, I have one reason I'm dying to see him- Jonnhy Depp.